Fatima Bey: 0:01

歡迎收聽 MindShift Power Podcast，這是唯一一個關注青少年的國際播客，匯聚了來自世界各地的年輕人的聲音和觀點。準備好探討那些對當今青少年至關重要、並塑造未來世界的問題吧。我是主持人 Fatima Bey，MindShifter，歡迎大家。今天我們邀請了 Guy Waltman，我將和他深入探討「激勵」這個主題。我很高興他今天能來到這裡，現在請他做個自我介紹。小伙子，請先向觀眾介紹自己。

Guy Waltman: 0:43

好吧，我很感謝你的熱情介紹，對於那些不想被簡歷煩死的人來說，我想說，我是一個兒子，有兩個了不起的父母，我是一個哥哥，有一個無與倫比的妹妹，我是一個驕傲的男朋友，擁有我生命中最健康、最美麗的愛人，我還是一個生活教練，我希望今天意味著這能在這裡補充一些關於什麼的觀點。

法蒂瑪先生：1:13

好的，那我們就從這個開始吧。對你來說，人生指導意味著什麼？

Guy Waltman: 1:17

Yes, so life coaching is a lesser understood profession and it's viewed as by many well, really just like, not a serious profession because of how improperly so many life coaches approach the space. So let me tell you what life coaching isn't. Life coaching is not being a therapist without a license. Say that again, please. Life coaching is not being a therapist without a license.

法蒂瑪先生：1:44

請再說一次。

Guy Waltman: 1:45

生活指導並不是沒有執照的治療師，那才是所謂的非法。

Guy Waltman: 1:50

So what therapy is for, at least like for the intents and purposes of this conversation, I like to describe therapy as 80% the word would be reactive and 20% proactive. What do I mean by that, right? So, as a therapist, you often figure out, you often find out what you will be discussing when your client shows up for the session. So a typical therapy session begins with the therapist saying so, tell me what's going on. And then you, the client, you set the agenda, you talk about, you know the shit going on at home or work, whatever. And then there's a. So that's the 80%. Me as a therapist, I'm going to be reacting to what you are saying. And then there's going to be a minority portion in which I'm going to add some wisdom, some expertise, and try and chime in and give you a. You know, maybe like a course correction or something.

Guy Waltman: 2:50

Life coaching is, the is the inverse of that. So life coaching is 80%. The big bulk is actually what I am bringing to the table because you, as the client, you are going to find out what we are going to be discussing when you show up for the session. So you show up and then me, the professional, I say so. Here's what we are talking about today. So it is the opposite of therapy. What life coaches have the responsibility to do is have the courage to say I am an expert in X, y or Z, so you can hire me to teach you about that thing, and these are my credentials that justify my expertise in that thing. And I think life coaching at its finest is actually sort of like a school, where there's a bona fide curriculum that people can pay to traverse through, and that is my claim. So, as a life coach, I proclaim expertise in the domains of physical health, mental health and relationship dynamics, and that is the bulk, if not the damn near full extent, of the proactive education that I give my clients.

Fatima Bey: 4:06

是的，謝謝你的解釋。我還有很多其他內容可以添加到這個列表，但我喜歡你的措辭。人生教練和心理治療之間有很大的區別，作為一個思維轉變教練，我知道我和你與人之間的對話是一樣的。好吧，我確實會把治療作為教練工作的自然組成部分，但我不是治療師。所以，如果你正在尋找治療師，我可以給你一些建議。別來找我，因為這不是我提供的，也不是我做的。你知道，這不是我受過的專業訓練。

蓋伊沃特曼：4:40

Something can be therapeutic and not be therapy, right? Ping pong is immensely therapeutic for me, right? Just the metronome of just hitting that ball on a table that's folded in half just by myself is therapeutic, right? Things can be like rejuvenating, revitalizing, and the word would be therapeutic, but not be something that you had to go and be a professional licensed therapist to provide.

Fatima Bey: 5:08

Right, so tell us, how did you get into life coaching?

Guy Waltman: 5:13

The journey began. So as I sit here in the state of contemplation, it's really just to decide how extensive of an answer do I want to provide, because the professional path of mine began at the university level in which my father was diagnosed with a brain tumor. So when that happened, what I found almost like impossible to reconcile was how fascinating I found his brain tumor. So the more I would research it, the more interest I had in it. And I actually had a level of guilt surrounding that, like how, what kind of person am I that I am finding this thing that's killing my father so fascinating? So what I did at that time was I declared my academic studies to neuroscience with a plan of being a neurosurgeon which, excited my mother, would be like to be solely on the side of treatment and not have a hand in prevention and I was an athlete my whole life and I'm sure I would have been a phenomenal surgeon.

Guy Waltman: 6:38

I have good hands and steady hands and a sharp mind and I'm sure could have done great work as a, as a neurosurgeon, but I don't think I would live a fulfilled life. I don't think I would have gratification in my work life if I was again like, solely on the side of treatment, meaning dealing with already existing brain tumors. I want a role in helping people optimize their lives in the first place and I believe that that is how I can make a far greater impact on the world. And that took some time to figure out how I want to get that accomplished, but I ultimately landed on life coach.

Fatima Bey: 7:26

那麼，促使您成為生活教練的動機是您希望看到的改變。

Guy Waltman: 7:32

Yeah, certainly, yeah, yeah, my father and my mother both serve as the foundational inspirations in my professional path, my father on the physical health side and my mother on the mental health side. So my mother, she has had a life that is at least by like western civilization standards, like here, for for myself anyway. In the united states my mom had a harder life than most the United States, my mom had a harder life than most. And the mind, just like the body right, if you go into the gym and you push yourself too hard, you can pull a muscle the mind has a breaking point as well, and my mom reached hers in my, like, adult life.

蓋伊沃特曼：8:20

And so here I was as a professional, really focusing almost all of my efforts in the physical health space for so long, then witnessing my mother reach her psychological breaking point. And she had two bona fide suicide attempts, one of which has left her permanently damaged. She had two strokes needed to have three brain surgeries, spent some time in the local homeless shelter here where I was or where I live, because she refused to live with me, because she didn't want to be a burden on my home life, like with my romantic partner. So she was actually homeless and receiving services from society at large for a while, and so watching her mental health decline combined with watching my father's physical health decline has turned me into into the professional I am now.

Guy Waltman: 9:20

是的，我的父母確實給了我很多啟發。

Fatima Bey: 9:26

So they inspired you in two very different ways.

Guy Waltman: 9:29

Yeah.

Fatima Bey: 9:31

這真是太神奇了。說到這個，我想到的是，很多時候人們沒有意識到，如果他們懂得如何利用，他們所經歷的一切，其實可以成為他們未來發展的有用工具。你知道嗎，我剛剛聽你講了你的故事，你把它變成了一個有用的工具，幫助你了解情況，激勵你去幫助別人。我覺得這很棒，你把自己的經驗轉化為一種動力，讓你進入一個幫助他人的職業。

蓋伊沃特曼：10:08

Oh, I have to think that that so many of the people who you serve receive coaching from you in that, in that similar vein, where you will communicate to them, not only do you have something that you can, that you can offer the world Right, but it is actually because of what you have been through or are presently going through that will make you more uniquely equipped to serve someday right, like that old adage, that you can only appreciate the view from the mountaintop if you've been in the deepest Valley.

法蒂瑪先生：10:42

And so.

蓋伊沃特曼：10:43

I have clients who I mean my God, a client of mine. His name was Scott Havens. His name still is Scott Havens. He's still alive. You know, yeah, a client of mine named Scott, and when I had met Scott he was 640 pounds. So, for perspective, if you can picture a California king size bed, when he would lay in the dead center of his bed, his stomach would actually eclipse the sides. That's how much his stomach would pan outwards. And through working with Scott over four years of time he lost 410 pounds. He lost 410 pounds. And when asked, right.

Guy Waltman: 11:25

那麼，史考特，你真的後悔過這麼多人生嗎？對，因為首先，你不會一夕之間就變得那麼胖，而他很長一段時間都胖得厲害。所以我們說的是幾十年，甚至可能是二十年的時間，在這段期間，他沒能體驗到很多你我都習以為常的事物。所以這真的就像把20年的生命白白浪費了一樣。所以當被問到，史考特，你對此有遺憾嗎？他說沒有。他說，因為我非常珍惜現在擁有的新形態、新的身體、新的能力，如果我沒有經歷過最深的山谷，對，就是最深山谷中的山頂，我永遠不會珍惜現在的生活。

蓋伊沃特曼：12:27

So he, he's saying that like sure I could have those 20 years back, but it would have been 20 years of just taking shit for granted left and right. He's like I actually have a gratification in life that is greater than the vast majority of people, because of what I went through and you know so to your listeners. There's you would be hard pressed to overemphasize to them, because I know that you and I share similar coaching points in this regard. It would be difficult to overemphasize to them that it really is the struggle that will make you more uniquely equipped to both enjoy life and serve others. And I'll tell you one more thing, if I may, not to bend your ear too much, and I say this through a comedic lens when I rewind the clock to my days as a single man and I would go out on the dating scene, I often would not seek a second date because she didn't have enough trauma.

Fatima Bey: 13:39

It's like you're boring, You're boring.

Guy Waltman: 13:44

我需要一個經歷過更多創傷的人，對吧，因為那會讓你的生活更加豐富多彩。對嗎？

Fatima Bey: 13:52

Yeah, when you're young and you don't know anybody, you think that that's right, that's that.

Guy Waltman: 13:57

That's right, that's right, that's right.

法蒂瑪先生：14:03

You realize that you don't want all that after a while, so you have something called the windmill of motivation. Can you tell us what that is?

Guy Waltman: 14:10

Oh, certainly, you teed me right up. So the windmill of motivation is perhaps the original concept of mine that I am the most excited about, in that I think it has the greatest potential to impact human beings, able to help you decipher any reason why you are struggling with motivation in your life. So what I am doing here is I'm making a really bold assertion, which is that any time in your life that you are lacking motivation, there is one of five reasons for that. Okay, five. And so, really, the mystery of motivation? Right for those? Because there's, no, there's no visual here. I'm putting up bunny ears the the mystery of motivation really is a mystery, no more.

Guy Waltman: 15:06

In my proclamation, I believe there are five ingredients to having world class motivation, and if you have all five of these ingredients, you will run through a brick wall for the things that you want. But as soon as you miss even just a single one of these five ingredients, you are immediately flatlined, melancholy and unmotivated because of what windmills in the actual world around us do. So windmills, when you see those things you know spinning on the horizon, what windmills are doing is they are generating energy, and that is what motivation is within human beings. Motivation is a form of energy, right when people are described as unmotivated or like lazy. What you are describing is a state of low energy, and there's a metaphorical inner windmill inside all of us that does not automatically spin right, just the same way that a windmill doesn't have energy. A windmill generates energy. Humans don't just have energy or motivation either. We have to generate it, just like windmills do. And again, there are five ingredients to making that happen.

法蒂瑪先生：16:23

That's the windmill pieces of the windmill. That um, that I had heard you say before um really intrigued me and I this is the one I want to talk about.

蓋伊沃特曼：16:46

In order to be motivated, we need to feel first right. So, in order to take high quality action, you certainly do not right. In order to start.

法蒂瑪先生：16:57

You most certainly do, but don't, I have to feel like it first.

Guy Waltman: 17:00

Oh my goodness, no, oh my goodness no. And and right there, See, you know, with as I lean forward here, you know 18, you know ish minutes into this podcast. What we have arrived at and I really am not exaggerating this is not hyperbole we have arrived at if people could grasp how profound this point is we have arrived at something that could truly change the lives of billions of people, billions of people, which is that, no, you really don't need to be in the mood right, you don't need to feel like it right in order to start. And, in fact, the greatest psychological plague of the planet, at least in my estimation, is that people wait in order to feel motivated. Estimation is that people wait in order to feel motivated.

Guy Waltman: 17:58

你知道，有時候汽車需要幫助才能啟動，就像字面上的發動。但是一旦你啟動了它，也就是你正確地跳上了它，一旦汽車啟動了，它就很容易保持正確行駛。所以有時候人類只需要跳一下，就是這樣。我們只需要跨接電纜。但是一旦啟動了，繼續行駛就不難了。所以當碗碟堆在水槽裡時，我不想洗。我不想把碗碟洗好，所以我就不洗。我走開，不停地繞回來，結果就是，情況越來越糟。現在毯子還沒疊好，衣服還得洗，垃圾也堆積如山，所以，最後，我要做的就是連接跨接電纜。

Guy Waltman: 18:43

好的，那麼跨接電纜是什麼呢？跨接電纜的形式是，不管你心情如何，還是無論如何都要去做。好吧，即使你不想做。這叫做認知超越。就是這個術語。認知的意思是像思想一樣，而超越的意思是我們要克服不想做的事實。所以你只需要強迫自己行動起來，拿起水槽裡的第一個盤子。猜猜什麼不那麼難拿起？是第二個盤子。對。一旦你拿起了，一旦你克服了開始所需的初始能量。接下來，你知道，你會對清潔上癮。你有沒有過這種情況？老實說，只有我這樣，還是真的發生在你身上？當你開始打掃的時候，突然間，你就迷上了它，你對清潔上癮了。你不想停止打掃。你就迷上它了。

Fatima Bey: 19:34

I'm very clean, so yeah, don't want to stop cleaning. You get oh yeah, I'm very clean, so yeah, and it's like, oh well, let me clean off the shelf now. You know what I should clean out the fridge that's what it is.

蓋伊沃特曼：19:41

確實如此。這並非為了繞路，而是汽車需要快速啟動，有時它會以跨接電纜的形式出現。人類需要快速啟動，它以一種非常寶貴的技能的形式出現，那就是即使在缺乏動力的情況下也能強迫自己行動起來的自律。因為，仔細聽，不要錯過這一點。

蓋伊沃特曼：20:04

This is the moment, ladies and gentlemen at home, this is the moment, boys and girls, that you want to hear, because the greatest misconception of motivation is in thinking that you have to be motivated before you take action, because, in actuality, we often don't get motivated at all until we take action. We don't want to go to the gym, we don't feel like it, but once you get there and you start, it's not hard to finish your workout. You don't feel like writing your essay, but if you just sit down in front of your laptop or pen and paper, once you just start, the words just start flowing, the motivation kicks in upon us starting. So if we are waiting to be motivated, we might be waiting a long time.

Fatima Bey: 21:03

I'm going to bring this up. I did an episode recently where we talked about unforgiveness and we pointed out the fact that forgiveness is a choice, not a feeling. The feelings will follow the choice, and I think that principle applies here as well. It's not about feelings, the feeling will follow the action. Once you get started and I completely agree with you a thousand percent I can think about just working out. You know you're like oh, I don't feel like working out. But then once you get there and you start lifting your weights, you start doing your leg press, whatever you're doing, then it's like okay, it's not so hard to get onto the next one. You just have to make the decision to get started. And then your real, your feelings behind why you want to do it. Well, they'll arrive. Because it's like you said, the car.

Guy Waltman: 21:55

你啟動了汽車，所以現在引擎一切正常，我們準備出發了，是的，你知道，我真的很重視你給出的那個比喻，我真的很感激你分享了你生活中的個人經歷，我們之間有相似之處，作為一名生活教練，我做了很多關於一個非常具體的詞和那個詞的教學。

蓋伊沃特曼：22:19

There are many things in this world that are abilities that we don't think of as abilities, right, so it's like so tennis is obviously an ability, right, there's a, there's a spectrum of ability, and if you can picture a, if you can picture a spectrum right, a left to right spectrum, then all the way over to the right is Serena Williams, spectrum right, a left to right spectrum, then all the way over to the right is Serena Williams, okay, and all the way to the left is a is an infant who is, who isn't even able, right To participate in the sport, right, and then you and I are somewhere in between, right, yep, well, forgiveness is a skill, but we don't often think of that as a skill. You're vocalizing it as a decision and I completely agree and I'm a hundred percent stealing that. But you know what else it is. It's an ability. There are people who are better at forgiving than others. That makes it an ability, right If there's a spectrum of ability and it makes it a ability.

Guy Waltman: 23:15

Right, all the way to the right is Serena Williams in tennis, and I suppose all the way to the right is Jesus Christ, right, and then all the way to the left would be just someone right, who, just who is probably the devil right and just the antichrist right, so, and then you and I are going to be somewhere in between. So a different ability that really warrants great consideration is again like the ability to do things when you don't feel like it. Right, that that is an ability, and there are people who are just way better at that than others, right, like David Goggins for those who might be familiar with this Navy SEAL from the United States or Jocko Willink, or just think of any like, think of any badass right, if you will. Right, you know what they've really gotten good at through Hell Week with the Navy SEALs, right, and all this stuff. They've gotten really good at just doing it anyway, which applies not just to go into the gym, but it applies to doing your taxes right. It applies, my God, sometimes it applies to so many things that in a vacuum or what I mean by in a vacuum, in when you look at it on its own, you don't think has a great impact on your life.

蓋伊沃特曼：24:35

But if you, if you recognize the degree in which these things accumulate, they actually damn near control your life, right get, when you get home late and and you don't feel like jumping in the shower because it's 11 pm and you feel like the shower's gonna, you know, like wake you up or something. You just feel like crawling into bed, but because you didn't shower and you're sticky, you get in the bed. Now you can't sleep, you just turn all night. Well, now you wake up the next day and now you're dog shit and the whole next day's in the crapper. As opposed to whatever. I don't feel like showering it's 11 at night Do it anyway. I don't feel like flossing Do it anyway.

Guy Waltman: 25:15

不管那是什麼，你還是會去做。我的天哪，這種累積效應會在你的一生中給你機會，讓你充分發揮你的人生潛能。我可以向你保證，你甚至連你最大潛能的表面都觸及不到。如果你想做的時候才做，那你絕對永遠都做不成。你永遠無法攀登到你渴望的高度。

Fatima Bey: 25:51

I was yeah, you hit it at the end because I was going to say the people who follow this mindset, the people who actually do the things that they don't feel like doing, are the very people who usually are successful. The people who follow this mindset and understand that you don't wait until you have a feeling to do what you need to do. The motivation will come afterwards. That's really, you know, as you said, self-discipline, and it's the people with discipline that are successful, not the most talented, it's the people with the most discipline. You know you could be extremely talented and that doesn't mean a damn thing. If you aren't disciplined enough to do the right thing consistently with it, then you can't grow. That's why you have see, that's why you see music stars that pop up for about 15 minutes of fame and then they fail.

法蒂瑪先生：26:39

有些人是因為天賦異禀，別無其他；有些人是因為天賦異禀，別無其他。他們缺乏自律，缺乏成熟，不懂理財，其他什麼都沒有，所以他們最終沒有成功。而那些真正成功的人，通常擁有的不僅僅是歌唱天賦。

蓋伊沃特曼：26:55

是的，如果我可以向各位聽眾介紹一個詞，請記住，就像這個世界上的年輕人一樣，我們每個人的生活中都有一席之地。在我成長的過程中，有一個詞對我幫助很大，那就是無形資產。那麼，有形的東西是什麼意思呢？意思是你可以觸摸到它，對吧。無形的東西是你無法觸及的東西，對吧，但這並不意味著它不重要，對吧？所以，為了成功，你認為我必須是個好歌手，對吧？那就是技能，對吧？或者我必須擅長，非常擅長，把籃球投進籃筐，對吧，那是有形的，我能看到它。對吧，那個球會穿過籃框。

Guy Waltman: 27:45

But often what holds people back from their success are the intangibles. So it's the things like you just said, like your maturity, right? Or your level of kindness towards others, right. So I don't, my God, you could be a really great basketball player, but if no one likes being around you and you're just constantly rubbing people the wrong way, well, then you might not make the team and they're not going to pass you the ball right, your intangibles, okay, your, your.

蓋伊沃特曼：28:19

You know an example of an intangible and I'll get out of the sports analogy in a moment, but like in the basketball sense, it'd be like are you clutch? Do you want that ball in your hand when the clock is winding down? In the fourth quarterto-day life, amongst just people, intangibles are just going to be again that, that maturity level, your level of, of emotional intelligence, your level of of. You know how how well read you are and your kindness and in your level of appreciation, gratitude, how forgiving you are, how remorseful you are meaning, how quick are you to apologize when you realize you've done something wrong, how loyal are you in your relationship. These things really make the man and these things really make the woman and shouldn't be forgotten or or underappreciated in relation to the skill, right or the or the thing that you like, your dream.

Fatima Bey: 29:32

你知道，光是精通你的技藝是不夠的，你還必須擁有這些無形的特質。我現在想請你和所有在座的青少年談談，能否給他們一個建議？是什麼建議？

Guy Waltman: 30:04

I still identify as a young person. I'm in my early thirties. There's some, there's certain life decisions that you start contemplating when you are my age. You think about being a dad and and bringing kids into this world and stuff. And I, I'll tell you, the world right now is not an inspiring place to to bring a kid into, at least in my opinion. And and part of the reason why I would say is is the cell phone and everything that goes with it, right and like in the social media.

Guy Waltman: 30:30

I, if, speaking to young people, if you were to ask me to kind of like, give one singular piece of advice that if you, just, if you just trusted me, I know it'll pay dividends. It's just, either get off of social media like entirely, or at least build a healthy lens for viewing everything you see. It is like, I promise you, everyone around you is not living a better life than you, but that's what Facebook and Instagram make us believe, because through you know, through taking 30 photos and the editing, you know, the filters, the, just whatever it is, and people, by the way, they don't post their bad days, right, so what you are seeing is a collection of their brightest moments, okay, and I'm telling you, their life is not that good, it's not. They aren't that happy, they aren't that successful, they aren't that happy, they aren't that successful they aren't. And so not only is social media anti-social media, but if we get too bound to it, then what we run, I would say, a very high risk of, is we run the risk of doubting ourselves.

蓋伊沃特曼：32:02

對，因為我們會審視自己的人生，然後說，我的生活沒那麼好。嗯，是的，你是的。你說得對，他們可能只是在分享自己高光時刻，好像他們並沒有比你領先多少。你必須相信自己。而我認為，當我們沉迷於手機時，這些東西會隨著時間的推移而慢慢消失。是的，是的，我知道你需要一部手機，我明白。我，我真的明白。但如果我要成為一個父親，我現在就告訴你，我的孩子，如果你得到了一部愚蠢的手機，你知道我當年得到一把剃刀時有多興奮嗎？

Fatima Bey: 32:55

You remember that yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was the early 2000s. You kidding me that razor.

Guy Waltman: 33:02

那把刮鬍刀用起來還行，感覺很酷，感覺很適合。我家孩子以後會用垃圾手機之類的。但我跟你說，就像你我一樣，我們只好接座機，然後跟朋友的父母進行一場尷尬的對話。比如，你好，呃，布萊恩在家嗎？我能聊聊嗎？布萊恩能過來玩嗎？諸如此類。不過，這會讓你胸口長毛，就像那樣。這比躲在鍵盤後面對你有好處。

Fatima Bey: 33:43

對，我很喜歡你說的“不要比較”，我覺得這才是你剛才說的最重要的一點。很多時候，不只是我們的年輕人在這麼做。有些30多歲、40多歲、50多歲的成年青少年也在這麼做。我們把自己和虛假的東西比較。

蓋伊沃特曼：34:05

And that's what we don't realize is okay.

法蒂瑪先生：34:07

我們只看到了他們想讓我們看到的一小部分，而這些部分已經被操縱了。我們看不到全貌，事實上，你可能會比他們做得更好。但你正在拿自己和虛假作比較。所以我完全同意這一點。別再拿自己和虛假作比較了。你是真實的，你的生活是真實的。他們向你展示的並非如此。

蓋伊沃特曼：34:34

As cliche as this is. The only person you should be comparing yourself to is you yesterday.

法蒂瑪先生：34:40

Yes, yes, actually, that's on my wall. There's a version.

蓋伊沃特曼：34:42

是的，事實上，它就在我的牆上。

法蒂瑪先生：34:43

是的，我的牆上有這句名言的一個版本，那麼人們要如何找到你呢？

Guy Waltman: 34:49

找到我的最佳方式是透過網站或Instagram。我的網站是我的暱稱，是guy Waltman.com GUYW a LTM a?N.com，Instagram帳號是guy underscore Waltman.com GUYWALTMA-N.com，Instagram帳號也是guy underscore Waltman。如果你透過任何一種方式聯繫我，我肯定會看到，而且我非常期待收到你的消息。我認為我正處於一個非常「甜蜜點」的年齡，可以同時與年輕和年長的觀眾建立聯繫，對吧，對吧。當你20多歲的時候，想要贏得成年人和父母的尊重是很困難的，但我認為我現在有了足夠的生活經驗，可以做到這一點，而且我可以說我一半的工作都是與年輕人打交道的。

Fatima Bey: 35:39

Do you speak at schools and?

Guy Waltman: 35:41

colleges All the time, school assemblies, and I have about a dozen and maybe just shy of a dozen higher education institutions in which I'll do some guest lecturing. I'd say a big bulk of what I do is just like the keynote for corporate professionals, but I never turn down a school invitation. But I never turned down a school invitation. I don't do enough of it simply due to just the difficulty with school budgets and things like that, but I certainly have never turned down a school assembly.

Fatima Bey: 36:13

All right. Well, thanks again, Guy, for coming on. I really, really appreciate you being a guest here on MindShift Power Podcast and I hope that you were able to plant some really powerful thought seeds in the minds of the listeners today.

蓋伊沃特曼：36:29

I would like to thank you for having me on. You and I have built some rapport just in the week in which we've gotten in touch, but to trust me with your listeners means a great deal, so thank you so much.

Fatima Bey: 36:44

Thank you. And now for a mind shifting moment, I want to focus for a moment on something that we talked about, a principle that we talked about in this episode, and you've heard me say before stop waiting for your feelings to guide you and tell you what to do. Stop waiting for your feelings to guide you and tell you what to do. Stop waiting for your feelings to be where you think they should be before you make the moves you need to make. That's what people who never get anywhere do. It's all about a decision. Your feelings matter, but your feelings will follow. Your feelings are fragile. Your feelings can change like the wind, but if you make a decision, that's when things begin to change. You decide to forgive, you decide that I'm going to get this done, whether I feel like it or not, and that's how you get it done. And that's how you get it done. What are you waiting for? What area of life? Are you waiting to feel something before you do it?

Fatima Bey: 37:49

Now, specifically to our American audience, our culture has taught us a lot of lies, and this is one of them. You do not have to have feelings before you take action. So I want you to go back and listen to some of the principles that guy talked about today behind making a move and then getting motivated. Many of you are successes waiting to happen, but you're sitting around and waiting for a feeling. Get up and move and watch the feelings follow. Thank you for listening. Be sure to follow or subscribe to MindShift Power podcast on any of our worldwide platforms so you too can be a part of the conversation that's changing young lives everywhere. And always remember there's power in shifting your thinking.